Carole Gray is an artist, independent researcher and higher education consultant. Julian Malins currently is a research professor in design at Gray’s School of Art, The Robert Gordon University, Aberdeen, Scotland. Both have PhDs and extensive experience of supervising and examining research degrees in art and design and related areas. Both are practitioners with a belief in the creative relationship between practice, teaching and research. As committed practitioners, educators and researchers Carole and Julian continue to be excited by the challenges posed by research, and they continue to learn.